SciFi Question of the Day: If a political or corporate entity made it to Mars and established a foothold there, how much of a “land grab” should they or could they do? What happens when the next, unrelated group comes?
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Perry Willis No country or company should be able to claim a planet. I would think what they could claim would be what they can develop or at worst bet to the visible horizon.
William J. Teegarden Depends on how big their guns are, and how many they’ve got!
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That said, we are not trying to create a “Law of Space Treaty” that would work to that goal. The only treaties we have consist of draconian restrictions combined with a collective claim to the whole of space by the United Nations in the name of “all humanity”.
That certainly doesn’t bode well for keeping conflict to a minimum.
I think it is vital to create a liberal treaty that recognizes a zone of sovereignty around any permanently inhabited place without imposing an ideological driven socio-political systems upon them. The recognition of zones of sovereignty work to alleviate conflict while the imposition of ideology ensures it.
So start with a recognition of sovereignty that doesn’t impose ideology. This goes back to the Westphalian Peace that put forward three key principles:
1)The fundamental right of political self determination.
2)Equality before international law for the sovereign states.
3)A state can’t interfere in the internal affairs of other states.
I would also suggest a Declarative basis for the recognition of a sovereign state with the simple criteria of:
1) a defined territory
2) a permanent population
3) a government
4) a capacity to enter into relations with other states.
Now we come to defining that territory. Despite the ideological and active interference through much of the “Law of the Sea Treaty”, it does work for a starting point for discussing territorial rights when establishing sovereign states in space.
The focus is on the extension of territory and territorial influence into oceans and seas. This actually has a better fit with space stations so that:
1)Territorial Space is a 22 km radius sphere around the station.
2) Exclusive Economic Zones is a 370 km radius sphere.
For surface territorial limits, I would swap those so that:
1)Territory Area encompasses a 370 km radius circle
2)Exclusive Economic Zone is an additional 22 km beyond that.
Those are just transposing the numbers that were found agreeable to signatory states here on earth and is of course open to debate as to whether they should be greater or lesser. I would suggest simplifying and extending to 50km and 500km would be a good incentive and equitable… but a good argument could be made for 10km and 100km as being plenty for any colony just starting out and would make it more difficult to claim huge areas by placing a few guys in bare habitats every 1000 kilometres.
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There was a roleplaying game called Jovian Chronicles that had a good treatment of a Mars divided between two governments.


When Martains become self sufficient, and no longer need the specialized goods from Earth, they will simply ignore Earth political structures and in turn create their own. A corporation could claim a tract of land at that point, but they couldn’t enforce their claim unless the locals allowed it.

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On mars it would be a mixed nationality crew…the most likely situation is that they choose to reject all earth nations to form their own.









The most interesting part is the discussion of geosynchronous orbit slots, and this is current events not future speculation.

In regards to the second question, isn’t the answer always violence?
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Unless the company involved is Disney. Because Disneyplanet willeventually happen.




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